11/22 Clubhouse town hall(英語版)

Paul
0:00
All right. All right. Let's get going. Let's do it.

Anu
0:03
You should do it.

Paul
0:05
Alright. Everybody to the weekly clubhouse town hall. My name is Paul and one of the cofounders clubhouse. And I joined as always by my co founder ro Han and by our teammate Anu. And we do this every Sunday 9am Pacific time. And we use it just to talk about what's going on clubhouse like what are some great rooms that have been happening this past week that we want to celebrate? What are some of the great ones coming up? What features have we shipped this past week so everyone knows what the what the latest and greatest hits from the app? And what's coming up next week and most importantly, we use the time to answer your questions. So you can ask a question anytime. Just go to clubhouse.com scroll to the bottom, and you can see a link to submit a question for Town Hall. We collect them every week on like Friday or Saturday. We look at all the most commonly asked questions from the past week and we make sure we go through all of those. If you have any additional questions you can submit them anytime you can right now, if you think of something during the room, just go to clubhouse comm and scroll to the bottom. It's been a question you can try to hit us up in the back channel. And if we get through all the questions that we have right now, we can you know we can try and get to more at the end. Got to be honest, it doesn't usually happen because I usually talk too much. But But one day it might and we can always put them in the list for the next week. So today's today's special edition is the please show on Christmas music Thanksgiving hasn't even happened edition. I can't believe we got a three day week coming up. We got a lot of stuff to get done. So why don't we get it kicked off. We'll bring stuff up talk about what's been going on in clubhouse this past week. Steph Simon, where is your hat? All right. As brought stuff up. Good morning.

Stephanie
1:54
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I love having said it's like I just appear it's magic.

2:01
It'll just be like, Hey,

Stephanie
2:03
by the way, this can be not one but two. movie references. You'll see the next one. Alright guys, actually, before I get to the highlights for the week, we're going to do things in little bit differently. We're happy to see that replays have had a ton of uptake. So we're going to work on more ways to distribute them in the hallways and elsewhere and one of those ways is a new weekly blog posts featuring some of the interesting and notable rooms from the week. So I think our news going to link that right now and we'll keep that linked for the rest of the section of this Townhall. So if you want to find links to replays or clubs that we mentioned, please tap on the link versus on feverishly having to change every time I go to a different sections so you will see that shortly.

Paul
2:46
Might made you a mod so your thank you thank you for having a little toe make everyone else don't not Rohana DOMA

Stephanie
2:57
okay well back to the carefully choreographed section. And we'll be posting that um, you might also see a top replace carousel in your feed from time to time so as always, please let us know if you find it helpful. Or if you have any suggestions on maybe what you're seeing and if that matches what you would like to see. And stay tuned for some other updates to make replays even more shareable, or clips more clippable and before I launch into potentially a couple lines from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, let's jump into the highlight. After following and holding discussion rooms since the trial began the news of the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict saw the community come together for a number of powerful conversations. I want to especially give a shout out to cocoa connection. They're always great. And they consistently hosted rooms where everyone can come everyone in the platform actually can come together and process share while also hearing from legal and racial justice experts around this trial. So I think they've hosted so many over the past 18 months I also know Sleepless in LA and I in fixed my life hosted rooms as well and I'm sure there's so many others that held all equal discussions. Again, this is one of the I think best use cases of clubhouse is when people want to come together and share and react for many different reasons. Sit back and watch disgust own TV's Queen Sugar Season Finale what an episode Marla Campbell Harris and Teresa Campbell talked about the storytelling and story arc along with thoughts of upcoming thoughts on the upcoming seasons. Ava DuVernay even dropped in to say hi, it was a really cool moment. I love when that happens. Also in pop culture, Adele was all over our hallways this week. First when our own Maya Watson hosted Oprah. In case you guys missed that it was her former boss for a chat about her interview with the incredible musician about the 30 album and Griffith Park performance. That was a super fun one. And while she did crash the app she also let us know a ton of things from behind the scenes and Gail and her best friends dropped in with some really fun banter. Really, really great room. After the album debuted, we had John Pierre was among several who have mods who hosted chats about the impact she's had over the years from his newly launched club. The popular opinion I know many of you guys have probably heard John Pierre in many rooms, and he finally hosts formed a club to host ongoing conversations. So please check that out the popular opinion. Science fiction talks continued at what has been a great string of rooms lately when they brought on Neil Stevenson, the author of snow craft has been much in the news lately because of the metaverse but his new book Termination Shock is out now. It's actually about the impending climate change in sort of destruction of our planet from a climate perspective. It's out now definitely check out the replay on this one. I personally was blown away, hearing about his process, how he creates a world not just writes a book and I loved hearing from his fans, many of whom sound like they fully live in the worlds that he creates which was like I said really, really cool. Josh Constine brought the Constitution doubt crew on right after the auction actually I need to make a quick correction or Josh Constine brought them on right after and three ROM and RT on our team actually brought them on right before so it was amazing to hear this sort of before and after from the Constitution Dow group. If you don't know what I'm talking about, and you don't know what a Dao is dowels are decentralized autonomous organizations and this particular Dow constitution Dow raised $42.3 million for an auction on a rare copy of the US Constitution and while they did not win, it has been a fascinating look at the future future of crypto, decentralized fundraising, and potentially how a group of people can come together to buy assets or make change or lots of things. So really, this is your hackathon proposals. This is my algorithm. Don't you can't get unless it's gonna happen. I don't want to mention it, but I personally am super bullish on Dallas. I think they're a fascinating way to sort of organize and really leverage communities as a center or product anyway. Amigos club has exciting guest this week. Jose Marshawn. Because I consistently a Food Network holiday baking champion stopped by to talk about his pastry chef chef journey, as I say that right? Pastry Chef during cooking as an art of expression and his upbringings, Beatrice Acevedo CEO and co founder of Sumo wealth also stopped by to talk about the journey of becoming Latina, becoming a Latina entrepreneur and the Latina Equal Pay Act.

Stephanie
7:37
That actually that triggered something which is I am really as everyone is about to launch into a full week of cooking. One of the things that I would love as I heard from him actually talking as a baking champion. Is it give each other tips on clubhouse about what potentially they're gonna be baking, what are some shortcuts, how can we help each other? It really just made me think about all the food that's coming for Thanksgiving and I can't wait. Back to you Paul.

Paul
8:03
Thank you Thank you. Thank you, Steph. Even even by even by the weird standards of 2021 last week was last week was pretty wild. It was cool. So many so many people in the community brought on really interesting guests and had great conversations you know, fun fun fact. For came on the app one other time, at least one other time I remember where when we were really small. And there probably a couple 100 people in the room. And Rohana night was just Rohana me the company and we were like oh no, there could be like 100 people or 200 We don't know if the app is gonna stay up. And it was like it was our first like, Oh no, is this gonna break thing? And it seems so cute by today's standards, but but it was really cool. And so it was fun seeing the full circle after this week. Remember that row one? I bet you were freaking out. We were all freaking out.

9:05
We were we were both with us.

Stephanie
9:08
But Oprah has that effect. You know, like no one does it get to be in a presence and freak out. That's quite amazing.

Paul
9:15
She's so complicated with their technical issues and things like that is amazing. And Gail, it's great. Anyway, really cool. Thank you for all thank you for the highlight stuff. There's one more clip that I wanted to mention the the what just happened club so over this year capacity, it's kind of increasingly become a place where people come together to discuss and to process the news. You know, we think of it as not, oh, I'm going to go here and break the news that's I'm going to come talk with people about it and you have whenever something happens you have rooms full of people pop up and they're just like talking and and like someone will come in with a new piece of information and they'll tell the room and they'll spend hours just digesting and debating and I love that like I love it from you know the rooms you were mentioning that popped up to discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse trial to to the conversation about natural disasters and how you can help like it's something that's really really important here to the community. So to support more of the conversations we create a club called what just happened. We have a bunch of amazing contributors Buster share named macaque brain scenario Clinton and a lot of other people are going to be hosting rooms and it's really like breaking news club where they can provide a space for the community to discuss the latest in politics and sports and entertainment or whatever is happening in the world. So if you are interested in breaking news and you want to hear more about that, you can join the what just happened club on you. Do you want to put a link to that so people can can join it right now maybe.

Anu
10:48
Let's see if we can do.

Paul
10:50
Okay. So what is happening? In the meantime, I want to highlight some some big claims out of Italy for the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against women. It's a multi hour block of programming that's happening on November 25. And it's titled Love is not a killer. And it's going to be hosted from the from the anthropology of the mind Club, which is this amazing club. It's a professor from the University of Geneva Professor Alessandro pear Turati and it's called the anthropology of the mind club. So if you're really fast at pinning links, or if you can really quickly manifest that carousel that you're talking about audio. That's another good one that that people might want to might want to join. This room specifically is going to be led by Dr. Laura Marilee Lavanya and Sarah nella. dare call Ilaria Bodine and it's gonna have voices and conversations from across the country people coming together to create a new awareness for a more civilized society based on respect and firm opposition to to sexism and violence. Italy has been it's been a source of so many great rooms like not just rooms like this rooms about food and travel and music and fashion. And so I imagine these trends will be mostly in Italian if you're an Italian speaker at any level, please stop by because it's going to be an important series of conversations and on the topic of of languages we're working on the next 14 languages that our language localization efforts so a couple weeks ago, we launched clubhouse in 13 new languages outside of English, and we're doing another 14 I think in the next week or so. So I think the next 14 hopefully will hit a few days. after Thanksgiving. And these are on Android first and then we're working to get all of these languages over to iOS in the in the not too distant future. And then we're also working on a bunch of continued improvements to the new captions feature to replace the pin links. And to to a lot of other things that we got coming for you. So let's see the

Paul
12:59
the last thing I wanted to mention. Oh, I know. I was gonna mention, we have a new team member that I wanted to call out on the same theme of localization. We've been building an incredible team. I'm really really proud of the team that we build here at clubhouse. We've got people from a lot of places around the world like New Zealand and all over, but we made a country specific hire for the first time that I wanted to mention so powershot Kaushik or pari as he's more commonly known in clubhouses joining as our first head of partnerships for India, so the community India is growing really fast and there's so much incredible activity there. It's such a, such a diverse place, so many different sub communities, and it's just become really important within the broader clubhouse community. And so we're working to hire country managers for for a number of specific countries and in parties the first one prior to clubhouse he handled marketing entertainment partnerships for Tik Tok in India. And so we're just incredibly excited to have him come in and really, really fully focus on the community of the user community within India. And I remember in the early days, like rawhide, like the first time we started to see rooms form in other parts of the world. We checked the app at like three in the morning, and there'd be people in the UK or people in Lagos or people in other parts of the world holding rooms and it's crazy. It's crazy. And and, you know, we often say like, our goal from the earliest days was to grow it from a small community of beta testers like a small single community into a global network of many different communities. And as we started to move beyond that tech hub and grow in in music and entertainment and then like, and then I remember like the Lana creative community came on and that was incredible and and then we've grown into crypto and all these other verticals. It's just the best part of club is the best part. So we're really excited to have you join. And hopefully we'll be we'll be hiring people to lead the efforts in other countries around the world. So if you're ever interested in helping out on, on, you know, growing club us in a certain part of the world, you can just write to I think international club.com and that's where we concentrate those efforts. Okay, to talk products. Let's there's always alright, we we've got a few good things here. Oh, I've got an exciting one to mention on the product front. Okay, so let me talk about what we put out first, okay. Last week in the latest release, a couple big things. One was we started to distribute replays. So a few weeks ago, we launched a place where if you are creating a room and it's a public room, you can choose to have replays enabled, which means people can listen to the room after the fact. It's really cool. Like when you listen to a replay. It's like the full experience of the room. You can see people coming up on stage and going back down it's not just an audio recording, like you could see the whole thing. You can you can skip to the next speaker, which is a fun feature. You can listen to 1x and 2x. You can download it if you're the creator of the room so you can share it on your podcast or YouTube or wherever you like. You can pause you can you can do all sorts of cool stuff. And and so we launched that feature a couple weeks ago, and now we started to show replays in more places within the app. So a couple cool things we launched last week one is now replays are in search. So if there's a replay that you want to listen to maybe it was one that we mentioned just now but you didn't manage to get to it. Just go to your hallway and search and they will show up in search results. Another place where they're showing up now is carousels in the hallway. So you'll notice sometimes when you scroll now, you'll see a couple different types of carousels. There's one called rooms that you missed, which is some of the some of the rooms from people you follow in clubs. You're a member of that happened recently that you weren't there for live. You can catch up on them just in your hallway and carousels and we're gonna be rolling out additional types of carousels. Like maybe there are some featured ones by topic. Maybe there are some trending carousels. Maybe there are ones that are just specifically designed for you. We want to highlight a lot of a lot of really interesting rooms, from communities and small groups that are talking about all sorts of niche topics and some distant cluster of the clubhouse network. We're really excited about surfacing those more people. So those are those are just starting to roll out. So if you haven't seen them yet, it probably just means that you're it hasn't been rolled out to you yet, but they're going to be rolling out over the coming week or so I believe. So more distribution for replays and I'm really excited about it to, you know, to as a way for you to discover content, but for creators also to get more reach to reach more people to get more feedback on their rooms and to see that their reach grow over time. The second thing which we're really excited about that we launched this past week, is captions. And we've we've got we've had a great reception about the launch of captions. We launched it this past week to support English and in beta to 12 other languages. Which it's it's a huge deal. On the accessibility front. But it's also people engage with rooms in places and times that they weren't able to before. If you want to enable closed captioning, where you can do is within a room you tap on the three dots in the upper right within a live room and select Show captions. And so check it out. Let us know if you have any feedback. I mentioned that the the 12 non English languages where we rolled it out so far, that that's really in beta, where we're collecting feedback. We're tuning it, we're optimizing the performance of it. So if you have feedback on things that work or don't work and specifically non English languages, please let us know and the team will be working to improve it every week.

Paul
18:56
All right. So that's what we put up this past week. We also have a release this week, even though it's a short week, and it's one that I'm very excited about. So what we're launching this week is something

Paul
19:08
I guess we already have a version of it but we're launching a new and improved version of topics. So topics if you don't know if you go to your profile, when you tap on the settings, you can say I think they're called interest UI and you can tap on them. And it's a small set. It's about 150 different things that you can say you're interested in whether that's you're interested in, you know, Italian, you're interested in Tic Toc, you're interested in philosophy. You're, you know, but the pre prod you know, I think we have one for music which is like ridiculously broad, but they allow you to say what you're interested in. And we've increasingly started using topics under the hood, to help power some suggestions that you're seeing. And that's been really helpful in finding rooms that people want to check out. But it's always felt like topics should play a bigger role within clubhouse. And so starting this week, they're going to and they're they're going to be used in more places in more ways to help you find rooms that you want to pop into people you want to follow. Clubs you want to join. And so let me let me tell you the change is that we're starting to roll out this week. One is, you know, the the first one is so I'm just I'm just going through the list of stuff in the in the release notes to make sure I'm getting all the different ways. One is you're going to continue to see rooms that you might want to that you might want to check out in the hallway based on topics. But topics are also going to start living in a couple different places. Now what is topics will live on your profile publicly. So today, topics are private. But we're gonna make a change to allow you to display them on your profile. You don't have to, you can still keep them all private if you want to keep them all private. But what we want to do is give you a way to show them on your profile because it's really cool. It lets people know what stuff you're interested in talking about. So when to when people visit your profile, they can see here like the 23 things that you're really interested in. And so if you're in a room with them, that can be a conversation starter. But the other thing that's cool is when you're looking at someone else's profile, you'll be able to and they have topics displayed on their profile to tell you what they're the types of things you're just talking about. You'll be able to tap on it, and you'll be able to see search results for that topic. So maybe it's some really nice, interesting topic. You can tap on it. And you can see all of the other clubs that are focused on that topic. You can see all the other events that are about that topic. You can see all of the other people who are interested in that topic. So it's a way to constantly not only see what people you encounter in clubhouse are interested in, but to find other people and other things within clubhouse that are focused on that topic. You can also tap on it, and you'll be able to add it to your own profile so you can let people know that you're also interested in that thing. Topics are also going to start appearing within rooms. So if you set up a room, you can say this room is about these three topics. And that's going to allow people in the room to notes about that topic. And also to tap on that topic and to discover other rooms that are about that topic and other events that are about that topic and other clubs that are about that topic and other people who are interested in that topic. So it's going to allow you to make your room more discoverable. And that will last for the replay also. So imagine there's some niche interests that you're that you're into, or you're hosting a room that's about Bluegrass or or the Dodgers or a specific crypto project. You can tag it with that topic. And then anyone who's also interested in that thing will have an easier time finding out about that room or finding out about that replay of the open the app a week later. So really baking it into the fabric of you know we're building into the fabric of clubhouse overall. And, you know, these are just a few of the changes. So starting this week, we're going to we're going to begin rolling out so though you'll have the option to display them on your profile, you'll have the option to tag your rooms. With those topics. You can already tag your clubs with those topics. You'll have the option to tag your events with those topics. Anytime you see a topic you'll be able to tap on it and view all the other things that are tagged with that topic and add it to your own profile if you want to. And the next wave of this, which isn't going out this week, but it's going to be a fast follow is we're going to dramatically increase the number of topics that we support. So right now, we support about 150 topics and my hope is that we're going to increase that to 1000s of topics and that's something that's going to continue to grow over time. discoverability of great content, great creators and great rooms is so important to clubhouse and this is I think particularly important to to community rooms to niche communities to people that are just deeply passionate about something that that is pretty specialized. And and those are just such incredible rooms like Ron we talked about, I mean, we talked about gene fixers and and in the pizza club and all of these other things where people are discussing something that that's a huge part of their life. And if we can help you find other people that also viewed as a huge part of their life who are deeply passionate about it deeply knowledgeable about it. It just makes the conversations that you can have the people that you can meet so much greater. So so that's the big thing that's coming up this week. It's the next iteration of topics within clubhouse.

Paul
24:42
That's all I got on the product.

24:44
I'm really excited about topics. Come on.

Anu
24:48
Um, I remember the request for topics on your profile and in rooms from well over a year ago. So I think it's gonna be

Paul
24:58
a good one. It's gonna be awesome. I'm so excited about it. All right. Okay. Should we get into questions?

Anu
25:04
We should and Paul. I don't know if you looked at the dock today, but we have a lot of questions.

Paul
25:10
Oh, good. I will be extra concise.

Anu
25:15
We'll do we'll do our best. I actually suspect. We're not going to get to them all today, but that's always a problem of plenty. Okay, okay. So, as we've been doing in recent weeks, we love to start with questions about the recently launched features. So I'm going to start with captions since that is the newest. Okay, so, overall sentiment and one specific comment from someone captions are great and helpful for many in the community. Now we have a bunch of questions. How many languages are supported by captions? As a recap.

Paul
25:48
So English and 12 others initially English is formally launched and the others are in beta, because we want to collect feedback and make sure the quality is is sufficiently good,

Anu
25:59
perfect and our captions able to be used in replays and clips. Interesting question. I like this question.

Paul
26:09
That is definitely the intention. And Ron, could you help me out? I know Justin just joined too. So Justin.

26:16
Yeah, I think just not yet. But not yet, but soon as the answer exactly.

Paul
26:22
Okay. Not yet, but soon.

Anu
26:25
Amazing. Okay, I thought this was a fun one. From Italy, as you mentioned, Paul. So Ciao Paul. Ciao Ron. Ciao, I knew I like to ask if you thought about making transcripts of rooms available now that you have captions it'd be useful feature as I plan to do some activities with my students at a university here in Italy so that they could have the written text to build upon.

Paul
26:51
I believe that the answer to that is yes. But Ron, do you know you you probably.

26:58
We know it's a really good idea. If we really want to do that. And we haven't designed for it. We just don't know when we're going to get to build it. But hopefully soon.

Anu
27:09
Like that we release a version one feature and people immediately ask for our version 234

27:13
And then Molly is great at designing like v2 v3, she knows what we're gonna build

Paul
27:21
back for sequencing. Right?

27:24
That's a company value that

Paul
27:26
was literally our core values as a company. It's a real hard way of saying it deep respect for secrets.

Anu
27:34
That's right. We have to earn the right to

Paul
27:38
earn the right to polish.

Anu
27:42
Okay, here's the catch all question which honestly, we kind of went through a little bit. Are there other features you're planning to roll out in the future with captions? For example, translations.

Paul
27:52
Oh, I love that idea. And that is something that we've talked about, and it's really, I think it's really just a quality thing. Where we need to make sure that we've got the quality right so yeah, we should do that. We don't have an exact time frame for it. But I love that idea. Imagine going into other rooms, in other languages, any language in the world, you can peek into some other corner of the world and you can talk with them. That's incredible. That's incredible. So yeah, you should totally do that. And it's something that it's something that we've talked about very excitedly internally. It's really just a question of like, when we can get the speed and the latency and the quality and all of that to the point where we feel good about pushing it out.

Anu
28:31
Totally. So I'll stop at those questions. But I'm sure we'll get more for captions. And overall, I would say, feedback has been great and over accessibility as well. So please keep sending us your feedback on captions and requests.

Paul
28:44
Yeah, people have been so helpful with that. I want to acknowledge the 15% in particular for all given us over the past year so with with these sorts of features and issues, so please, please, please keep it coming.

Anu
28:57
Absolutely. Okay, now on to replace also pretty new. Still a lot of questions and requests for future version. So I'm going to run through some clarification questions. How long can a replay be in the sense that you know rooms or have unlimited length? Do replays have an unlimited length or is there a cut off point?

Paul
29:18
I actually don't know the answer to this.

29:22
There is a cut off point. I forgot the exact number, but I think it's six or 12 hours. I think the team had to make some sort of a decision on that. We could get you the exact length, but it is there is a limit today. In an ideal world, we don't need to limit at all but just the way the current the current system is architected, we needed to put some kind of a limit and it's, you know, it's long enough for most rooms I think, like

Anu
29:47
Yeah, six, six hours.

Paul
29:50
I was glad you didn't say six to 12 minutes because I would be like that's that's

Anu
29:55
enough for us. It seems like

29:57
a great first price downsize here

Paul
30:02
is the room they can experience the entire six to 12 minutes after this. You can skip to the next speaker once

Anu
30:13
so for anyone who's keeping track six hours and if there's a use case in which that seems not long enough like

Paul
30:22
to laugh after the fact for me is that I did

Stephanie
30:24
well, I was laughing I was like all he needs that

30:32
I appreciate that

Anu
30:37
okay replay line of questions continuing How can I remove the rooms I was the speaker in Is it possible to remove it and make it private? I suppose persist in some way to your where you can do it yourself but nobody can see it on your profile.

Paul
30:54
Okay, so I mean, so here's how I would summarize it. If you're the creator of the room. You can download the audio and then you can delete it from your profile anytime you want and that will remove it from the system if you're the creator of the room. If you're a speaker in the room, you can can tag yourself from that piece of content so that it does not get displayed on your profile. And the way you do all of these things is if you go to your profile and you tap on the three dots next to that replay. Then you'll have those options so you can so you know the mental model that I use is like if you were tagged if your friend took a photo and tagged you in it, your friend can delete the photo or you can untag yourself in that photo. It's a similar mental model to that.

Anu
31:48
And then some question that I thought was interesting. Should a club creator be able to delete a replay even if they did not, or if that Creator did not start the room itself, but it was started by a club leader for example alright, I'm not able to hear your call. I don't know. Stefan, you

Paul
32:14
are? No Paul, can you repeat yourself? Oh, I'm sorry. Can you hear me? Yes. Yep. Okay, the I said that's a really good question because you can do it for an event that is hosted by the club. I imagine the right model would be you should be able to remove it from the club's profile. So that is no longer associated with the club rather than having to delete the content altogether, but I'm not sure what our current thinking on that I think we do actually look for it that way. So a club admin should be able to remove a replay from the club profile.

32:54
So we do support that. But I can confirm that. Yeah,

Paul
32:57
I think that that feels right. Yep, that feels like the right and that's without deleting the replay.

33:01
Tidy just confirm that that's exactly how it works is the creator of the room can delete the replay, but the admin of the club can remove the replay from the profile of the club.

Anu
33:12
Perfect. It's like any form of tagging. You can untag yourself. Yeah, exactly. No sense. Or delete if you're the creator, okay. This is a hot topic internally Will there be a replace search for example like there is for people for clubs or for rooms I think in general discovery around replace how are we thinking about it?

Paul
33:33
We have that now, as of this week, right? Are we talking about something else? Like you can now search for replays? We just pushed that out a couple days ago?

Anu
33:41
Yes, we do. And I we also talked about replace carousels but I think it's a general question that a lot of people have had. So play around with it. And let us know your feedback.

33:53
Yes, all you know to be cool is when you can search the transcripts of the replay. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Anu
33:59
Do you want to manifest that one? All right. I

Stephanie
34:01
know that he slowed down, even slowed down for the manifestation

Paul
34:10
the thing I just want to add to the last question, Patty Patty gave some added color. When you do remove it from if there's a replay that you removed from the club. It also removes the club branding from the room, which is great. So it's like yep, this remapping, but has nothing to do with that club. So I think

Anu
34:27
that's great. Yeah. Okay, this is another actually discovery related question. So for replays Could you please add a listening cue and a watch later Bell? So yeah, my my to watch to listen to later list.

Paul
34:44
I also want that. Yes, I think some people are working on that for our hackathon in our internal hackathon. Nikopol weeks. Yeah, it's a clear it's clearly a missing feature right like when you so many of you have requested this and we should have this so I I'm confident saying we will add this I also requested

Anu
35:04
autoplay to the next episode. For clubs that I for clubs that I love.

Paul
35:10
Totally, yeah.

Anu
35:13
Okay, going on list. Can we have a visual indicator from the hallway to let us know the room has replays? Enabled? question there is, will I be able to listen to it later if I don't join right now or if I want to jump to another room?

Paul
35:30
Yeah, I think we should. It's a hard one because you always want to, like protect that space. You know, there's only so much you can put in that room rep. But it feels like it would be a useful thing. So we don't have a design for it yet. But my guess is we'll end up deciding to put it on there. But I can't guarantee. I think it's an interesting one. I understand the need for it. It's something we've talked about a little bit, but we haven't we're it's still early in our thinking there.

Anu
36:00
Alright, couple more Quick Hits. I'd like to make replays available to club members only would this be a possibility? So private to club members? Optionally.

Paul
36:11
Yeah, I love that idea. We you know, we always sequence stuff like I was saying before, where we were like let's move on. Let's launch phase one and phase two, then phase three. And with replays, it felt like public rooms is the best place to start. But I can imagine that people want replays enabled for other types of rooms, too. And I think clubs are the natural place where you would go after that. So it's not something that we are putting out in the next week or anything like that. But it's always something that we've talked about and something that I think makes a lot of sense, especially as we start to have things like subscriptions and and sort of different tiers of membership for clubs. And things like that. I can imagine something people would definitely want so I love that idea. I think it makes a ton of sense and imagine we will ship that but no exact timeframe yet. I think we're doing a pretty good job of giving snappy answers and keeping up to keeping on track here.

Anu
37:11
Famous last words. Okay, is the replay motto? This is a question about audio or sound quality. I don't know if I can hear stereo but it feels like lie rooms and clips have stereo enabled

Paul
37:27
parts or Justin if you are the audience to know the answer to this. We've had a bunch I've seen a bunch of communication about this in Slack. But I don't know what the current state is. Do you know if replays are mono or stereo? Romane?

37:41
I don't. I think there was a lot of work done to make them stereo but I just don't know whether it's launched or

Anu
37:46
not. Yeah, we'll find out by the end of town hall.

Paul
37:49
Yeah, if they're not, they will be I believe. Yep.

Anu
37:54
Okay, last exciting question on replays that came in real time. Are these town halls being recorded? If so, where can I access these recordings?

Paul
38:02
Well, that's a great question. Yes, they are. If you tap on clubhouse HQ, which is at the top of this room right now, you can go to the club profile page, and that has a list of all of the replays on there. And we record the town hall so you can listen to them after the fact. You can also go to the profile of any of the speakers. So if you tap on my profile audio row on stuff, you'll see all the rooms where they were speakers, and I imagine most of us have our town hall replays there. And that's where you can find them. So there was one other thing I was going to say about it, but I oh yeah, the other thing I was gonna say they won't show up on there, I think until after the room has ended. But that's where you can find them.

Anu
38:48
Yeah, it takes about I think a minute or two generally to show up after a room and says what I've noticed. Yeah. All right, not bad. Captions and replace a lot of questions. On those this week. People are super excited about it. So please send us feedback, ask us more questions and we will keep doing those recent feature questions. Okay, now to get into all of our existing features. Are you ready?

Paul
39:16
I'm ready. I'm ready.

Anu
39:18
Okay, big category that I feel like we've been getting a bunch of questions or, like thinking about communication between the stage and the audience. So I'm going to give you a few questions on that. So far, the stage and the mods and speakers have been kept separate from the audience. For example, no feedback, it'd be useful to be able to more easily engage with moderators, what do you have planned on this front? If you want to maybe speak a little bit generally about that. And then I can tell you

Paul
39:43
let me let me talk general. Yeah, yeah. So um, obviously we, you know, we thought about this a bunch, and it's an area that we're excited about. And let me let me tell you a few principles that we have. One principle that we have is creator first. And if you've been at these panels before, I'm sure you've heard us talk about this stuff, but in the very early days of class we, we, we talked about how there is this inherent tension where at times the wishes of a listener might be at odds with the wishes. of the speaker. Right? It might be funny that like you're hosting in a room and I want to be in the room and you don't want me there, or you have a great stage that you're running and I want to come up and speak my mind, but you don't want me to. We decided in the early days that every one of those situations, we will pick you we will always prioritize the room creator and and that's a philosophy that we use with all of our product development. We think if we do that, then it's going to lead to a better experience for all the people here who are here hosting rooms and and that's better for everyone in the long term. And so when we think about in room feedback we really think about what's going to enhance the experience for the speakers. It's not we don't look at it from the lens of someone in the audience who wants to interject or who wants to participate. We look at it from the lens of the speaker. And and you can imagine there are things that you could do that are really helpful for the speakers. Like it's great to be able to read the room. It's like that if you're a performer that feeling of getting a standing ovation, that's incredible. How do we recreate that? How do we let you do things like polls and you know, interactive rooms. Those are the positive things that we want to do. If you say something amazing. How do we let someone in the audience tell you that that thing was amazing. The thing that we don't want to do is distract you give you something else you have to monitor give you something that takes you out of the moment. We don't want people to have a vehicle to to, you know say bad things. Or distracting things or to, you know, to try to take you out of the moment. So So those are the principles that we think about in terms of prioritizing this. We we we've been working on prioritizing other stuff that we felt was more structurally important. You know, things like things like making sure creators can consistently get distribution and reach more people, people can discover great rooms. And and we're now getting to the point where we can start to think about some stuff like in room feedback. So we're starting to think about it right now. And we're really excited about it. And the principles that I mentioned, are, are kind of what we use to guide our product development work in the sprint. So why don't we get into some of the specific questions, but that's kind of a high level framing, I'd say.

Anu
42:29
Totally. Um, let me ask you to opine on three specific ideas. So you want a listener status. So someone in the audience being able to signal incense to the moderators on stage, whether they're available to speak. You know, on the phone, people have said just listening that people have done with PTRs like, are we thinking about formalizing this in any way?

Paul
42:52
This is like the just listening. Dan, can you help us out here

Anu
43:00
bro, yeah, I think the question is have we thought about making a status feature available that is more formal.

Paul
43:07
i We have not really thought about that. And we have a little bit but but there's a nice workaround, which is people just use the just listening. Just listening filter on their photos. And I'll show you what, I'll show you what I'm talking about. Dan beat you to it. No, did he do it? Okay, yeah. And everyone likes a dad in the front row. Dan's always super helpful with this demo. If you go to let's go create a personal profile as a just listing banner over the front that just tells people don't call me up. But you know, I can't come up right now. So they're not they don't have to worry about rejecting the Speaker of the speaker ask them to come up but they can't explain to them why they can't come up. So I haven't thought we haven't really thought about extending that. Uh, is that something you hear often on you? Like I haven't heard this request often. That's I'm a little bit um, that's why I'm a little bit you know, thinking through it right

Anu
44:03
now. I think versions of it. But I think maybe the overall question is like, what would make people more comfortable to come into a room without feeling like they have to go up on stage or something that I think people often talk about, like, are there too few people in this room for me to go in and feel like I don't have to participate? Those sorts of things. But I don't know that this mechanism itself is the primary.

Paul
44:27
Yes, no, it's really cool. Like, I feel like we should think about it more when we think about feedback, but it's it's probably something we haven't paid enough attention to. And I love that. I love the suggestion. Okay,

Anu
44:35
two more quick things. Yeah. audience reactions. So you know, whether with a thumbs up, or, for example, mirroring something when you're on stage where you can kind of flash your mic, and I guess a subset of reactions would be applause. So how do we think about those two things?

Paul
44:52
Yeah, these are definitely on our radar and stuff that we're thinking through right now. Like one of the main things when it comes to in room feedback is how do you allow the audience to to express their support or feelings about something again, in a way that's additive to the speaker experience? So yes, DVD,

Anu
45:10
we need to hack on this. I'm going to submit Okay. Perfect. Alright, so fun question around discovery. What is the best way to find my friends on the app? I'm still interested in meeting new people, but I want a way to quickly see where people I know are or get people together into a room.

Paul
45:31
So the best way to do it and correct me if you think of other ideas here on the sidebar, sometimes called the buddy list or the buddy bar. People have different names, where we call it we call the sidebar internally is the best place to do that. So if you go to the hallway, and you tap it and you swipe from the left to the right, or if you tap on that little grid of dots in the lower left, it'll show you all of your friends who have been online recently. And friends meaning mutual followers, so you follow them and they also follow you. And if you want to start room with them, if you're open to starting a room with them, you can just tap the little wave button next to any of them and it will let them know that you're up for talking if they are and if any of those people accept then you pop into a room together, so that's the best way to do it.

Anu
46:16
I agree. I think that is the best way right now. I feel like this is something people ask frequently. So it'd be something I'd be excited to think more about,

Paul
46:23
too. Yeah, totally. I have ideas.

Anu
46:28
Okay, can you create a recent room section for me to look back at past rooms? The specific example is, I want to be able to easily go back to a room I was in even if my Mutual has left. So I think what this is referring to is the ranking in the hallway includes you know whether somebody that you follow is listening in that room, for example, and if that person leaves, it might not be there anymore. So how could you find that?

Paul
46:53
Yeah, I think that's a really cool idea. One thing that a lot of people don't know exists is if you go to your hallway, you tap on the upper left, the little explorer, the little compass icon and in the upper right of that screen, there's an icon that you can tap on, which shows you people who you recently listened to, it doesn't show you rooms but it shows you the people so if you were in a room, you're like, oh, who was that speaker she was super smart and and I forgot to follow her just wanted to remind yourself in some way. You can go there you can see people that you've recently listened to. But recent rooms feels like it'd be great, especially now that we have replays, like what if you're midway through a replay and you want to pick up where you left off. That's something that we need to build a better solution for. And so one thing that we're doing going into the new year is thinking through just the app architecture, you know, we've added so many things, and there are only so many buttons and icons you can add. We've got a lot of different ways to share like it just feels like it needs a little bit of cleanup and so we're doing some work right now to think about the overall information architecture and navigation patterns. So I love the idea of recent rooms. And and I'm not sure exactly what that looks like, but But yeah, I think that would be very useful.

Anu
48:16
Funny you suggest that Paul, I was going to ask some design and organization questions was great for me as well.

Paul
48:23
I will not have the answers but

Anu
48:27
have you thought about splitting the hallway into tabs based on topic or club? It'd be helpful to quickly be able to see a related list of rooms to choose from rather than many different types of rooms listed in one scroll.

Paul
48:40
Yes, we have thought about that and like but like I said, I don't have the answer yet. But I thought Yeah, I think that's super interesting. And think about like, Okay, we have rooms but can we also have replaced now. We also have like carousels and we have we have stories about things that are happening. We have people are street paying for stuff we have people I mean there's there's so many bits of information that could be useful to you. So one thing we're thinking through is how does the app evolve right now the hallway is live rooms carousels are creeping in. Should the hallway just always be a space for live rooms? Should it be more like a feed of the most really the most relevant information for you? Should it be in sections should it be multiple hallways? That's the type of stuff that we need to figure out. But it's very tricky. It's like a very tricky, important thing. But the you can see with the features, it's kind of stressing the limits of some of these, you know, some parts of the system. So we we're doing work right now to really figure out where that how that should evolve.

Anu
49:50
All right question you alluded to earlier. Paul, have we ever thought about adding a dark mode to

Paul
49:55
clubhouse? Yeah, we have. This is one of the painful things is is like, you know we were joking before about earning the right to do this but

Anu
50:05
this may or may not be my question. It's not but it is.

Paul
50:10
We were joking before about this. Like, we've always been such a small team that we've had to just ruthlessly prioritize and ruthlessly focus and we all want mode. And it's it's like a joke almost because we get the question so often. But when we think about it, we're like, Okay, what's more important? Is it more important to talk about or is more important to help people find amazing rooms is more important to help people to help creators consistently know how to grow every single week. You know, things like things like pin links, which like a huge percentage of people are using now or things like back channel, which is totally foundational. It's like that stuff normally ends up getting ranked as a higher priority. But you know, at some point, we should just like knockout dark mode. It's just not like a trivial quick change. And so that's why we haven't prioritized it above those other things yet.

Anu
51:09
Alright, I'll accept that enter for this week. Okay, quick ones around. Creator Analytics, which I know has been a hot topic. Lot of work internally, big shout out to a few folks on our team. Can you tell us more about how you're thinking about creating and Linux for live rooms and for replays? Also, when do you decide which analytics to show just to moderators? versus everyone in the room?

Paul
51:39
Yeah, so we we don't have a hard and fast rule about it. And the way we think about it is what creates the best experience for everyone. So like, with when you think about the number of concurrent listeners versus the number of like total attendees, it's like if you're in the hallway, what best informs the tap? And you know what, what best helps you decide whether you should join a room and knowing how many people are currently in the room is quite a useful thing. Because if it's a three person room, where you're going to be noticed when you join, but it's going to be more or and it's gonna be more participatory. Like, that's a very different vibe than a 3000 person room. Right? And so, it's useful to know how many people are currently in the room. It's useful to know how many speakers are on stage because you can know is this like a monologue? Is it a fireside chat is at a party or 35 people are on stage. So so there we think about from the listener perspective, what's useful to know what I'm trying to say whether enter room when when you're in a room? The it's same question like what's useful what's additive for the audience members to know what's useful and additive for the people on stage to know, I think the the total attendee count, that's something we should probably showed everyone and we've talked about making that change. Be, but really, there's no single hard and fast rule. It's, it's what's gonna enhance the experience and what's going to be most useful for for each party to know that's how we think about it.

Anu
53:09
And he goes around like live versus replays and what would be most useful for one versus the other or even splitting out analytics. I think that's a question we've gotten asked like, wanting to know what attribution is for live versus replays. And that way creators can tell what what is actually useful in terms of the distribution efforts. They're trying?

Paul
53:29
Yeah, I think our philosophy is with analytics, I have a strong point of view on this. I think we really want to focus creator analytics on things that are actionable, like it's very easy to just throw a whole bunch of random stats at you. And they're, you know, I think with a lot of infographics and things like that, it's easy to give people information that that seems interesting. But isn't useful. Right? Like I've seen so many different analytic services where they give you like 10 different numbers, and they make pretty graphs, but it's, it's not going to change what I do. And so we're trying to focus our analytics work on things that are going to help you make changes and, and optimizations and, and grow your audience consistently over time. If that's what you're interested in doing as creator, we're gonna Yeah, so might be things like, you know, when should I host a room? Should I do it at the same time every week? Or should I do it at different times then and this might be specific to me, given my audience and the topic that I'm covering, what should I be tagging my room with? And what is my what is the makeup of my audience because I'm working with these brands that want to sponsor my rooms and I need to tell them what my reach is. And what which guests have been most compelling which which, which speakers are the ones I should bring up, like, what are like, you know, those fundamental decisions that you need to make to make your show better and better and better. We want to help you make them. We want to help you make those decisions, using data rather than just throw you a bunch of random stats. So we're trying to be pretty thoughtful. about it. And having the total attendee count is sort of step one. And, you know, we said this when we were at least replace one of the best parts of clubhouses. I mean, a huge fundamental foundational part of clubhouse is the people who are in the room with you. And it's so nice that you can actually see them and you could see them whether they joined live or whether they joined in the replay. Like there's, there's so much there's such a rich set of information in understanding the vibe, the composition, the ins and outs of the room. And so we want our analytics features to really be helpful. I know it's kind of high level but but that's philosophically how we think about it.

Anu
55:50
I think that makes a lot of sense. I know we're doing a lot of work to figure out what the most useful analytics would be by talking to creators and folks in the community. So exactly. We'll get there soon. Exactly. Okay, last couple of quick questions. On just I guess, short form versions of clubhouse, so it's really cool that you now have live rooms, replays and clips. It'd be cool if there would be even more bite sized content or a way to quickly tie a clip back to a longer conversation. Any thoughts on how you might consider integrating these?

Paul
56:23
Oh, that's a very interesting one. This is another one where where? I'm not sure what the answer is yet. This is this is like a pretty it's pretty it's tricky, right? Like when you think about a clip it's a portion of a room. And sometimes you might want to just share the whole room. Sometimes you might want to share a portion of a room and so it's um, it gets. Boy I have the curse of knowledge here when you get into the designs, it gets really tricky really quickly. And so I don't know what the right experience there should be. But it's a fascinating one. And I think one of the one of the fundamental pieces here that will be interesting is the ability to refer to a specific point within a room. You know that that's something that's kind of going to be a first step here. So when you think about like, wanting to DM someone about something, they just sat or wanting to share a certain piece of a room. That is gonna be so much that we can do there. There's so much richness to it. But I can't take it exactly what that's gonna look like because it's a pretty complex design challenge and a lot of different pieces that all affect each other. Sorry for the vague answer. It's just like they can. I just know there's a lot to the answer to that question.

Anu
57:49
Yep. All right. We'll do a separate townhall for that one in the in the coming days. Okay, shall we go to request for shows?

Paul
57:57
That was requested? Yes. That sounds great. Oh, man, we're out of time already. I think we did a pretty good job getting through the

Anu
58:02
product line. We got through a lot of questions. A lot. Wait.

Paul
58:05
I'm so excited. I am so excited for the next version of topics and I can't wait to hear people's questions about that. And the requests that have so really, really excited about that. Okay, request just Yes. Giving us coming up. We got to do some Thanksgiving themed requests. Okay, so food shows. Like, my, my wife, Amanda does a food show which is it's really fun. Like she just hangs out and cooks and talks to people while they're cooking and they put the recipe in the pin Lake and they cook together. Love to see more futures like menu menus and like preparation tips. professional chef q&a is like group cooking shows. Those are really fun because like a lot of times every day you're you're cooking dinner and it's kind of a nice time where you can just have some company and like build community and and talk about what you're doing and share ideas for how to eat healthily and talk about stuff like cooking shows. You wouldn't think that it would make sense in this medium, but it's actually pretty good for this medium. Thanksgiving specials. I'm sure we'll have things on not just cooking but football and history lessons and all sorts of other stuff there. And what other one that we were talking about with this week in mind is a Black Friday coming up holiday gift guides with pin links. So you can you can put affiliate links you can put affiliate links in pin links, right. So you can set up an affiliate account, come up with some great products that you think people should purchase. And host rooms where people can buy these products and you can make money from that. Like that's awesome. I think it's great. It's like the home shopping network. So it's cool right? I think I am.

Stephanie
59:42
And it could be there could range from so many things. Maybe it's actual products or maybe it's Hey, maybe you don't need to buy things for people. Maybe you want to donate to something like there's so many ways that you can do that my mom does. My mom is like no, no, no gifts this year we're donating or I heard catcalls. Say. I'm giving everyone in FTS this year. I'm like alright, let's see that. It's so cool. I'm like holiday gift guides with pen we're gonna figure out

Anu
1:00:07
the marriage. Like clubhouse version of like putting a gift under each person's chair is

Paul
1:00:15
something with emojis on your profile? All right, all right. All right, two minutes over. What Oh, whoo. Any good rooms happening down? I know. Okay, this is cheating. This is later in the week. So it's not right after Townhall. But just want to call it out on Thursday at the anthropology of mine club in Italy I mentioned before it's gonna be hosting a conversation for the UN International Day for violence against women. So please be sure to tune into that. Right now. There's a really good politics and media one on one room happening where Justin's going to help us understand why gas is so expensive. So I don't know if we have a pin link for that but if not go to the hallway and just search politics plus media 101 or search for Justin Higgins. And they're going to be hosting the room on why gas is so expensive.

Stephanie
1:01:03
Why why when I hear you say that do I think about a theory of gas I'm like Yes. Like wow, what a shift in the world today. Wow.

Paul
1:01:14
That's amazing. That's amazing. One last note next Sunday, we're gonna be hosting a special mini Thanksgiving theme Townhall. We'll skip the news we'll focus on on things that are more Thanksgiving themed and the main motivation there is real hot and I don't want the team to have to do town hall next week on a weekend. So but we're gonna do here, we're gonna be there. Everyone's like, no, we want to be there. We want to do it. What are you talking about? But anyway, we're gonna do a Thanksgiving themed mini town hall next week. So have a wonderful week, if you're in the US. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. We're so grateful for all of you and so grateful that we get to build this thing. And, and I'm being very sincere when I say that. So thank you so much for spending a little bit of your Sunday with us today. Have a wonderful week, and we'll see you next Sunday at 9am. Pacific time. Thank you so much everyone. Talk to you soon.
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