Interview with Mr.Yoshihiro Nakada
It seems that I was making a device similar to the radio-active appliance in my past life
Etsuhiro Nakata (Yoshihiro Nakada)
Representative of Hiroishido
Born in Koiwa, Edogawa-ku, Tokyo in January 1947.
At the age of 27, he learned about Edgar Cayce in a magazine and started making the impedance device that Cayce recommended in his reading. At the same time, the sale of gems (ores) that appear in Casey Reading has started, and continues to this day.
Naoko Mitsuda:
It was in 1996 that I first met you and it was the year I started Temple Beautiful. It is now our 16th year for Temple Beautiful so it means I've known you for 16 years. We've been talking over the phone but I realized that I've never asked you how you found out about Cayce or anything personal. I know that you know very well about how it was in Japan when Edgar Cayce was introduced. So in this interview, I'd like you to tell us about those days. First of all, how did you find out about Edgar Cayce?
Yoshihiro Nakada:
I was born in Koiwa, Tokyo, in 1947. I was interested in mysterious things, unknown world and universal things. I was a child who was obsessed with thinking about death, the world after death and what happens when we die. I asked my father when I was around fifth grade, what happens to us when we die. I meant "after we died" but he replied that "You'll be burnt at the crematory and you'll be just bones". This was not the answer I expected but I couldn't ask anymore and I was disappointed. So as a child, I wanted to discover what happens to us when we die.
Mitsuda:
Were you in an environment which make you think of death? Or did you have anything special happen to you?
Nakada:
I think it was an influence of the past life, not the environment.
Then time passed, and I found out about Edgar Cayce when I was about 27 years old, working in an office.
There was an article introducing Cayce in a magazine called "UFO and the Universe", which had many UFO pictures and was like the present day "Mu" magazine. I was impressed by Cayce. The article mentioned the book "Many Mansions" and "The World Within" by Gina Cerminara, so I purchased them immediately and read them.
In those days, there were only three Cayce books translated and published in Japan. Two are published by Tama and the other was "Edgar Cayce Mystery Man of Miracles" published by Kasumigaseki-shobo. Yet everything I wanted to find out about was written in these three books.
Then I wanted to know more about Cayce and called Tama publishing to ask if there were any means to find more about Cayce. They told me about a group studying Cayce in Ichikawa, Chiba and gave me their number. I called the number and the person who answered was Yoh Hayashi, famous for translating Cayce books.
At that time I was living in Motohachiman, Chiba and since I could cycle to Ichikawaso, I went to see Mr. Hayashi right away to ask about many things. Mr. Hayashi was still a student of Dokkyo university then, but he was already translating many of the Cayce books and made mimeographed copies to distribute to their members. After that, I visited him frequently as it was close.
Actually, I was still interested in death then and in reading the articles of Cayce translated by Mr. Hayashi and various spiritual books, I found the book "Life After Life" by Dr. Raymond A. Moody. This book is the collection of testimonies of people who had near-death experiences and I was truly shocked when I read it. I thought "There, you see!"
When a material has something in common with the Cayce readings, I think "it is real". To me Cayce's readings are the highest level and I judge other materials' reliability according to Cayce readings. At the same time, I think even better of Cayce's readings as other materials prove their worth. So when I read Dr. Moody's book my confidence in Cayce became stronger.
Mitsuda:
It seems that you were more interested in the spiritualism then. How did you start to make the radio-active appliances?
Nakada:
It was when I was about 30 years old, I found out that there were companies dealing massage oils and herbs used in Cayce's remedies in the US. I was especially interested in "Atomidine" which was introduced in the book "The World Within", so I asked Mr. Hayashi to import it for me. But he was slow in helping me so I ended up writing a letter in English and imported from the states by myself.
After a while I discovered the way of making the radio-active appliance described in Cayce readings. When I read about it I was intrigued by its composition. I was especially attracted to it's mechanism of releasing energy by cooling with ice water. I thought I could make it since the structure is very simple. Thus I started to collect materials. It was 35 years ago, in around 1977.
Mitsuda:
Even though you say it is simple to make, wasn't it difficult to find materials since it is using unusual objects and you were not making the applience in a mass quantity.
Nakada:
The ingredients are mainly carbon blocks and carbon steel. At the time I was still working in an office in Okachimachi, Tokyo. It was near my work that I found a company dealing carbon blocks straight away. Actually I still buy from them now.
As for the carbon steel, I remembered there was a metal processor in my hometown of Koiwa. I asked the man of that place to make me "these kind of things", and he ordered carbon steel and processed to the exact scale as I asked. Glass bars and charcoal were easy to find, so I could start as soon as I got all the materials.
Mitsuda:
So you had everything you needed to make the appliances near you. I can see that there's nothing to be wasted in our lives. It seems as if you were guided by Cayce.
By the way, what kind of office work were you doing?
Nakada:
I worked for Braun, the famous company which makes electric shavers, as a repairer. Actually my parents run a barber shop so I became a barber first. But I was always into making things since I was a child, so I quit barbering and became a repairer at an office.
I got all the ingredients so I started to build the radio-active appliances. During the first two years, I asked someone to try the appliance as I built one. And I repeated this. As you know, the radio-active appliances act on the minute level of human energy, so there is no dramatic effect. I asked various people to use the appliances and asked them how it was, if they noticed any changes, to improve the quality of manufacturing.
After a while, Mr. Hayashi started to say that he wanted to sell the appliances to the members as a product. When I was told this, I became more enthusiastic and serious about the production. They were sold only to the members but I think we sold quite a few. They were still rare, and had Cayce's recommendation. Then they spread from one user to their friends and family members. Shortly after, I became more into this work and I resigned from my office work at the age of 34.
Mitsuda:
I also started Temple Beautiful at the age of 34.
Nakada:
Were you working at a bank?
Mitsuda:
No, I wasn't. But my parents wanted me to. They wanted me to have a secure job such as banking or government work because they had their own business and it was not easy. My brother also quit his government work and became a translator and researcher of Cayce. It made them want me to have welfare and a stable income more. But these secure jobs don't suit my personality.
Nakada:
We both are outlaws. In my case, I realized that I could make a living since I was selling enough appliances. Then, as you know Cayce recommended various gemstones in his readings, so I started to sell these gems as well.
Mitsuda:
Do you sell gemstones which are only recommended by Cayce?
Nakada:
Yes. I sold them to Cayce members and I put an ad in a magazine called "Twilight Zone" which was published then. At that time there was nobody introducing gemstones with explanations as to what Cayce said about them. So many people were interested and they sold unexpectedly well.
You could say that I was a pioneer to introduce gemstones in the Cayce way. But one time I used the Cayce reading about lapis lazuli as a part of a magazine ad. A major dealer immediately stole the idea and I lost the market. For a small vender like myself there was nothing I could do.
Now there is a book called "Mystic Power of Gems" published by Chuo Art but before that, Mr. Hayashi translated and independently published a book called "Mystical Gemology". This book compiled the interpretations on gems by not only Cayce but also by several psychics. And since it was published, many other dealers started to copy my style of sales.
Lapis lazuli became very popular then as it was recommended by Cayce. When I visited a gem show, there were wholesalers from India and Pakistan with piles of various kinds of lapis lazuli, from raw ore to cut and polished form. And there were a mountain of people buying from them.
Mitsuda:
What did Cayce say about Lapis Lazuli?
Nakada:
What Cayce referred to as lapis lazuli is azurite to be precise. He said that azurite influences the pituitary gland to activate one's potential ability and strengthen one's psychic ability. To use this, you place lapis on your forehead mainly. But Cayce recommended to use it in a glass case for it's energy can be too strong. It is a little hastle. But I was told by my friend who has psychic power, that placing lapis on the forehead gives a throbbing sensation and it's energy can be felt by simply holding it in your hand.
Mitsuda:
Did the Cayce group held by Mr. Hayashi have seminars? Until what year were you involved?
Nakada:
Mr. Hayashi was translating and making members' bulletins when he found interesting articles published by A. R. E. in the United States. I don't think there were any seminars held. Just sending bulletins. The group meeting was only among members who lived near by.
I helped them by asking bookstores to carry their bulletins and designed the covers but I left the group after a while for some reason. And at the same time I stopped making the appliances. I was with them for about 8 years in total.
Mitsuda:
I started Temple Beautiful in 1996. I think I was introduced to you by my brother the same year. You were making the appliances then, weren't you?
Nakada:
No, I wasn't. I didn't make any appliances for about 10 years until I met you. I started again as I began the business with you.
Mitsuda:
Is that so. I didn't know at all. It's already been 16 years since then. We are still selling your radio-active appliances and carbon steel coins. Do you have anything you are careful of or try to do when you make them?
Nakada:
I make the appliances only when my emotional state is calm. If I am feeling stressed or negative, I don't make them. And when I make them I do a simple meditation before I start.
Mitsuda:
The inside of the radio-active appliance cannot be seen by the customers, but the quality of the material you use is very high. I have taken some American appliances apart so I know the insides, and yours surpass compared to them. The radio-active appliances act on the minute energy field of human body. I think it's quality depends on the material used since the structure is so simple. I suppose your craftsmanship made you seek for such quality ingredients. How did you find those materials?
Nakada:
The carbon steel I was ordering through a metal processing factory at first but I found out that a higher content of carbon was better so I started to look for such material by myself. But it was very difficult to find steel dealers in Japan. They used to produce high carbon content steel before but it is in less demand these days. What I could find had a content of 0.55%, and eventually I found one with 0.58%… It was so hard to find.
On top of that, one unit for placing an order of steel is usually several tons. So I had to find a wholesaler who, having made such an order of carbon steel carbon could share some with me in small quantity. Finding this channel was extremely hard.
Mitsuda:
How did you find that channel? Was it by phone?
Nakada:
With the internet now it should be much easier, but back then it was by phone. I called up manufacturers of steel tools and asked if they knew anyone who deals with such carbon steel… And asked metal processors to introduce me to wholesalers.
Mitsuda:
Now you import carbon steel from the US, right?
Nakada:
Yes, I do. I had been using that Japanese 0.58% carbon steel, but I heard some criticism that Nakada's appliances don't work effectively because of the lower carbon content… Cayce stated the carbon content to be 0.55 - 0.65%, with a permissible range. I actually asked one of my customers who can see auras to check the differences of the appearance of their energy depending on carbon content. I prepared four kinds of appliances made with different carbon content materials, 0.55%, 0.58%, 0.60% and 0.64% to check their auras. The result was that all had the same beautiful aura.
So the carbon content was within the permissible range, but there were customers concerned about it so in the end I purchased American 0.62% carbon steel. But the order quantity was so huge that I have about 20 years worth of a stock.
Mitsuda:
We'll try to sell more so that it'll be used in 15 years! How about the charcoal which is used inside the appliances?
Nakada:
I use a very high quality Bincho charcoal (Japanese traditional) with fine grain. I have shown it to some of your staff before and its grain is as fine as sand. That grain is made by washing the Bincho hard charcoal a few times. Cayce instructed to use hard charcoal, so it shouldn't be with the powdery one.
I have taken an American appliance apart to see the inside before, and it had irregular sized charcoal that was a mixture of powder and large pieces. I assume that they use the charcoal for barbecues and break it into pieces. In fact I used to make the appliance in such a way when I started. It has to be accepted since America does not have the culture of using charcoal to a certain extent. But it still has an effect so there's no need to be worried.
High quality material is used for carbon blocks and shaped into precise measurement. It is also made by the great skill of Japanese craftsmanship.
Mitsuda:
Some people say that they don't feel anything from using the appliances. I personally think that there's nothing to be concerned about when we couldn't feel any difference on a minute life energy so soon since we live our lives so restlessly. But the majority of people seek for a dramatic effect. When they don't get it they seem to have less motivation…
Nakada:
Cayce did say that we'd feel no sensation by using radio-active appliances. So if you accept as it is, then you'll receive your reward later.
Mitsuda:
I was told by a customer who was using the appliance for some years, that after a few years they experienced something supreme while they were using it. One dental practitioner said that when they use the appliances while they take a nap on lunch break, their afternoon practice becomes much easier physically and mentally. Once they took a nap without it the result was not the same so they said it's a necessary item.
We can't feel anything when we start meditating or praying. But we don't give up and continue to sit still. I suppose the radio-active appliance is the same in that if we don't give up and continue to use it, something in ourselves starts to change. In general, things that Cayce recommend can be done easily but take a lot of patience. Of course some of the users at an early stage told me that their hands became warm, they could feel more relaxed, or their dream became clearer.
Nakada:
You may not notice the difference of the radio-active appliances but you can with the carbon steel coins. When my niece visited me, she had runny nose so I told her to put the carbon steel coin to her nostrils while she breathes. After a few minutes, her nose became clear and she was amazed.
Mitsuda:
I'd like to change the subject. Mr. Nakada, you have been studying Cayce since the time Cayce was first introduced in Japan. Did you have any contacts with Mr. Takanori Fukuda (Cayce therapist) and Mrs. Keiko Bannai (Cayce dream therapist) in those days?
Nakada:
I met them both when I was involved in the group by Mr. Yoh Hayashi. Mr. Fukuda still orders carbon steel coins from me. I met Mrs. Bannai when she started studying dreams in earnest.
Mitsuda:
You and Mr. Yoh Hayashi would later go your separate ways, but the development in your interest in Cayce started form this relationship.
Nakada:
When I was 40 years old, I had a reading with an American psychic called Michael Spradley. He gave readings while in a hypnotic trance like Cayce. It was very interesting to hear what I wasn't expecting at all. I recall that I sent questions and some money to the US and after a couple of months I received the reading. In his reading, he said that "Studying about Edgar Cayce there (Mr. Hayashi's house) became a foothold or an intersection of your life". In fact, it gave me much knowledge and I am very thankful. Apparently, Michael Spradley stopped giving readings later and became a police officer.
I was also told about my past life in Atlantis. He said that I researched and worked with cooling devices then. Have you ever heard of the tuaoi stone used in the Atlantis period? I guess it was an artificial stone that they used to create a crystal power station. They converged solar energy onto this crystal and it created power which was sent to other areas. I guess this device heated up when it was operated and I was involved in cooling it. He said that I was making "a device which was cooled with ice".
He also said that the reason I'm interested in spiritual matters is because I was wandering from religion to religion in my past life. Between Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism. This made sense when I think of my tendencies.
Mitsuda:
Why do you think you've had an interest in Cayce for such a long time? What attracted you so much?
Nakada:
To me, Cayce's readings hold the truth. I'm always searching for the truth. And I see it in Cayce's readings. In that famous Cayce prophecy reading, he mentioned the greater portion of Japan will go into the sea. We have to remember that he did not say "These will happen in 1998", he said "These will begin in those periods in 1958 to 1998". The earthquake of last year happened as a part of the long history and there may be more events from now on like extraordinary weather changes, earthquakes, war or the pole shift.
When I read a book about progression therapy by Dr. Brian Weiss, a patient who saw their future lives said there were houses in a town made with crystals. This description made me happy. It is said that Cayce also had a vision of the future earth while he was asleep and what he saw was something similar.
Also the readings point out that the human consciousness influences the environment of the earth, and I've been suspecting that the frequent occurrence of tornadoes in the US is the reflection of negativity. In the same book "Same Soul, Many Bodies" by Dr. Weiss assured this and I was astonished.
Thus, when I find something similar or agree with Cayce's readings in books on other subjects, I feel joy and think to myself that Cayce is indeed fascinating. This happens often.
There are still many readings which are not translated into Japanese and I have many readings I want your brother to translate. Anyway, Cayce readings are fascinating and they are the standard for my thoughts and judgements.
Mitsuda:
Lastly, how do you apply Cayce remedies to yourself?
Nakada:
I use the castor oil pack frequently. I use it for my backache as well. Recently my mother is using it often as well.
Oh, yes, about the crude oil shampoo(Daichi no Chikara Shamoo) you produced. My mother is now 91 years old and she's too weak to wash her hair so I'm doing it. Since I used that shampoo, her hair increased. It's been about two years and her hair is obviously increased. Before, the condition of her hair was fuzzy and thin, but it became stronger. Every time my sister comes, she's amazed.
She's also drinking soup made with chicken wings, so I think it's the synergistic effect, but still it's amazing. Every time I comb her hair, I'm amazed.
The way my mother uses castor oil pack is like this. She's been having gout attacks more often. It was every 6 months before, but it's been happening every month lately. When it happens it's too painful for her to walk so it was a trouble that she needed help for even going to a toilet. Then she started to apply the castor oil pack where it was affected and she says it relieves the pain after a couple of days. She keeps the pack on all day while she has the gout pain, then afterwards I give her a massage with olive oil. She's always saying "Castor oil is amazing".
Mitsuda:
Can you tell us your future dreams and plans?
Nakada:
You know about cancer cures recommended by Cayce. I'd like to make the device used in that cure applicable in Japan. But it will be expensive because of the cost of the materials, so I want the doctors who are interested in Cayce remedies to use it first. When I read the newsletter issued by Edgar Cayce Center in Japan on cancer cures by Cayce, I thought to myself "Yes, I should make this!". At the moment, I'm figuring out in my head how to complete that device.